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Daily News Roundup: Another thought on college dual meets

Daily News Roundup: Another thought on college dual meets
Jesse Squire

Last April’s Oregon vs Arkansas dual was an awesome meet. (Photo by TrackTownPhoto.)

Not everyone is a fan of collegiate dual meets, but I am. Duals were commonplace up through the 1970s and then began a long, slow decline in the 80s, and I don’t think its any coincidence that the same could be said about the popularity of college track in general. They can be held in a concise time frame, there is a common thread throughout each event, and winning matters at least as much as the stopwatch. College track needs more of all of these things.

There are lots of theories as to why the dual meet basically disappeared. One is the scholarship limitations put into place in the late 70s and further reduced in the early 90s–Vin Lananna pointed to that one a lot–but that’s a straw man argument to me. A team having more than a dozen or so scholarships was a rarity back in the 60s, and most teams still have plenty of athletes on their rosters these days.

Is it possible that one issue is a change in how we consume sports media? I don’t mean that sports media changed college track–sports media has generally ignored it, even in its heyday–but that sports media changed college sports, and in turn it changed college track.

Fifty years ago, nearly all media was local. Local newspapers, local radio, and even the new medium of television was mostly local. Sports teams were generally judged on how they fared against local and regional rivals. Woody Hayes’ annual goals were 1) beat Michigan, 2) win the Big Ten, and 3) win the Rose Bowl. National rankings weren’t even on the radar. In college track, beating local and regional rivals were the main goals for most teams. That happened in dual meets.

But media became more and more national in scope, with the turning point coming in the cable TV explosion of the 1980s. It seems to me that how teams ranked nationally became a bigger and bigger part of how teams were evaluated, because sports media became more national and less local. Getting your sports news from SportsCenter instead of your local newspaper changes how you look at things. Gearing a team towards national-level competition was how everyone began to think, not just track coaches. (Just look at how college football’s postseason has evolved over the years.) But only in track did that mean a fundamental change in how the sport was contested.


Runner’s World’s Morning Report has all of yesterday’s news: Rupp’s new mile plan, Farah learns marathon training isn’t easy, Alysia Montano is pregnant, and more.

Ken Goe’s daily Oregon track & field rundown has the morning’s news, including info Oregon Project’s use of TUEs.

College team rankings were released today. Arkansas (men) and Oregon (women) lead the USTFCCCA’s national championship simulation, and Arkansas (men) and Texas A&M (women) lead the Track and Field News dual meet rankings.

From yesterday: are you planning to watch the Winter Olympics but really wish it was track? Martin Bingisser has you covered. He has a complete compilation of former (men’s) track stars competing in Olympic bobsled.
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My hastily written weekend college track recap (posted yesterday) failed to pick an NAIA athlete of the week. It was clearly British Columbia’s Luc Bruchet, with his 3:57.71 mile at the UW Invitational–the fastest college mile of the year, regardless of division. Now the Canadian will be off to Boston to run against the world’s best.
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  1. Here’s another (cheeky) look at tracksters in the Winter Olympics:

  2. I agree that the dual/tri meets can often be exciting, particularly when you have evenly matched teams so that the points matter. I applaud Oregon and Arkansas for creating that dual recently in outdoors, and I love how the Ivy League still keeps some of their legendary dual/tri meets on their schedules (although some have been dropped in the last 10 years, like the Cornell-Harvard-Brown tri-meet). But why would you have a dual or tri-meet if it is just going to be a blow-out? That’s not interesting or exciting to the fans.

    • Jesse Squire

      Just to play devil’s advocate…should we decide not to keep score in blowout football or basketball games? Those aren’t interesting or exciting to the fans, either.

      • They should only score the ones needed for conference play, not the “rust-busters” that so many schools use to try to keep a good record or give money to the small schools.

  3. Longtime D1 Coach

    I agree 100% – We need to get back to Dual Meets without a doubt! I wish the NCAA and Conference Offices would require a certain % of meets be duals. This would help the sport get back to what it is about. More fans and people would actually understand our sport better. When I was a kid – 70’s/80’s – Their was much more support and interest in track and field. I think a lot of it is caused by individual coaches (event groups) wanting to try and take care of only their events and shooting for NCAA 1st round qualifying marks, instead of competing in track and field competitions against opponents – not Standards to hit. If they only knew that the nature of the dual meet usually brings out the best in their athletes performance wise – they would see that there is no need to chase marks. Also having meets only last 3-4 hours tops versus the All day and multiple day affairs we mostly have now is SO much better for the athletes performances. Having athletes do these long drawn out meets all season wears on them as well… They burn out earlier I believe. I miss the 2.5 hour long comps against your rivals – getting all the team geeked up and having only 1 heat and 1 flight of a small group of competitors brings out the best performances usually! Just don’t get why most coaches can’t see this??? Common Sense….

  4. Ray Harris

    Money is an issue with dual meets. The cost of a dual meet is nearly the same as a meet with eight team. A dual meet brings in one team’s entry fee while the eight team meet brings in seven entry fees. All too often it is simply a budget decision. As a DIII coach I can tell you the athletes love dual meets but they kill our budget with hiring of officials.

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